“Nothing about us without us is for us.” So goes the rallying cry popularized by disability activists. In religious Jewish circles, women are often the objects of discussion rather than participants.Is it ever okay for men to have a conversation about women without women present? In a special crossover episode with the Orthodox Conundrum with Scott Kahn, Chochmat Nashim looks critically at the backlash to a recent OC episode that centered on women’s rabbinic opportunities — sans women.